CPGM Front Office Take Over! New York Giants
2017 Giants Recap
The New York Giants are coming off of a tumultuous season where they went from a playoff team to the #2 overall pick. Anything that could go wrong did from bad beats in the beginning of the year to having to start a full deck of practice squad players. It was a terrible season and it just got worse as the year went on. Players were suspended by the team for off the field issues, the locker room was in disarray, and the Giants had to clean house. This is a very proud organization with a long history of championship caliber football. This is not the first year they had a losing season, but this season they became a joke.
That did not sit well with management and they didn’t take long to make changes. They canned McAdoo before the season was even over to give Defensive Coordinator Steve Spagnoulo the opportunity to tryout for the Head coaching position, honestly he had his work cut out for him and things were so bad that the Giants were going to make wholesale changes regardless which included firing the director of scouting Marc Ross, their General Manager Jerry Reese, and will be looking for a full makeover. The next section will show you where we are and what we have done leading up to the draft.
Rebuilding the front office:
The Giants brought in a familiar face and Giants Alumni Dave Gettleman who spent some time with the Giants as a Scout and worked his way up the ladder from 1998-2012 before becoming the Carolina Panthers GM. He had massive success there turning their team around, fixing their cap, and ultimately putting together a 15-1 team that lost to Peyton Manning and the Broncos in 2016. Gettleman was surprisingly let go after the draft in 2017 after ownership disagreed with how he handled contract extensions with Thomas Davis and Greg Olsen. Gettleman was also famous for his standoff with Josh Norman, we know how that ended. Gettleman has hung his hat on an old school approach stating at his press conference “I don’t just want players that want to win, I want players that hate to lose.”
The Giants brought in a brand new coaching staff as well after finishing in the bottom of the division. It was clear that they needed help on both sides of the ball. Pat Shurmur who lead the 10th ranked offense with a backup QB and a backup RB will be the new Head Coach. The Vikings had a much improved offense in 2016 as well once Shurmur took over for Norv Turner. Mike Shula will be the offensive coordinator who was Gettleman’s O.C. in Carolina who helped develop Cam Newton as the offensive coordinator in Carolina from 2012-2017 having the #1 offense in 2015 and the #4 offense in 2013. Carolina’s offense was 12th in scoring last year. Both should give a boost to the stagnant offense the Giants have had the last 2 seasons.
Their defense was equally as bad last year, coming off a great 2016 they were in the bottom in every major category. The defensive struggles were due in large part because of the offensive struggles. Then injuries piled on and everything came to a head when they had to suspend not 1 but 3 of their corners through the course of the season. The team fell apart at the end of the season with in house drama. James Bettcher a young and upcoming defensive mind will take over. He has lead the Arizona Cardinals defense for several years, his attacking 3-4 defensive scheme will create even more changes for the Giants. The Giants have talent at every level on the defense and bringing in Bettcher should do nothing, but get the fans even more excited.
Additions and Subtractions:
The Giants lost 3 starters from their offensive line, this line was in the bottom of the league and the Giants are looking to revamp that entire front. The key loss on defense was DRC (Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie), he was a fan favorite and a locker room favorite as well. He refused to take a pay cut, coming off a poor year the Giants thought it made more sense to move on. Richburg played well in 2015, but struggled in 2016. He missed most of 2017 due to injury and the Giants are looking to Brett Jones as well as possibly the draft to solidify the center position. The Giants thought Pugh and Fluker were not worth the money letting them both go to the NFC West (Pugh-Cards/Fluker Seahawks). Harris and Wing were terrible and cap hits were too high, easy decisions. John Jerry took a pay cut as well. Moving Harris, Wing, DRC, and Jerry taking a pay-cut saved the Giants about 10 million which helps taking on Ogletree and Solder’s contracts.
The Giants have not had a quality left tackle in ages and Reese never produced one. Gettleman has already addressed the position signing Nate Solder to a huge 5-year 60 million dollar deal bringing him over from the Patriots. The Giants have not had a middle linebacker since Antonio Pierce, Gettleman solved that too bringing in Alec Ogletree via trade. New York really likes what they saw from John Holapio and Brett Jones, both could be starters this year after both re-signed. Michael Thomas and Cody Latimer are depth signings, both special teams standouts. Thomas was the special teams captain for the Dolphins in 2017. Mauro and Martin come over from the Cardinals to help run Bettcher’s system, while Kerry Wynn stays as the Giants believe he will be much better in the new system. Robert Thomas adds depth behind Snacks and will help solidify the run defense, specifically on the goal line and B.W. Webb adds veteran leadership as well as versatility to the Giants secondary. Add Jonathan Stewart to the running game to give the Giants a veteran from the locker room who is familiar with sharing the back field with a rookie. Gettleman and Shula are familiar from their days in Carolina. Maybe they draft their own version of Christian McCaffrey like they did in 2017 to pair up with Stewart in 2018.
The Giants made 2 big trades this offseason.
- Acquired Alex Ogltree from the Rams
- Giants Received: Alec Ogletree + 2019 7th
- Giants Gave up: 2018 4th and 6th
Ogletree comes at a big cost, 2 drafts picks plus a big contract and he is coming off of his worst season. The Giants believe that he will be back to All-Pro form as he was in 2016, he did not fit well in the Rams 2017 scheme. The Giants also look to be restructuring his deal so that his 2018 cap hit goes from $10 million to about $5 million by converting and spreading out his signing bonus. Ogletree is an athletic MLB who can play the run, rush the passer, and cover who fits in the Deone Buchanan role for Bettcher.
- Trade away Jason Pierre Paul to the Tampa Bay Buccaneers
- Giants Received: 2018 3rd (pick 69) and 2018 4th (pick 108)
- Giants Gave up: Jason Pierre Paul and 2018 4th (pick 102)
The Giants had the fewest sacks in the NFL last year, JPP doesn’t fit the new system well and he has not been the same since the 2015 firework incident. The biggest part of this deal is that the deal opens up much needed cap space in 2019 and 2020 (approximately 19 mill per year) opening the way for extensions for Landon Collins and Odell Beckham Jr. being the only big extensions coming up in the next 2 years.
Here is the cap situation for the next 3 years.
Now you know how we got here, let’s have some fun and finish this offseason off. The Giants have approximately 6.4 million in cap and look to be focused on depth signings, the draft, and currently the OBJ drama. He is currently under contract, I don’t believe a trade is coming at this time due to his value as well as his situation. It will be far fetched to find a team willing to pay that price (2 first round draft picks) and that can extend him at 18-20 mill per year over 5 years. The Giants will look to roll over some of this cap and possibly move on from Eli Manning in 2019 with plenty of room to pay Beckham or tag him in 2019.
Some Free Agents to watch that could be signed:
- Dontrelle Inman – who has shown flashes at 6’3 205 lbs would be a nice option as the Giants look for depth having moved on from Brandon Marshall (cutting Marshall would save the Giants approximately 6 million in 2018). Inman would cost half of that and is only 29.
- Gerald Hodges – ILB who is familiar with Bettcher, still young at 27 who has shown that he can play.
- Ron Parker – once a big free agent target was cut as Kansas City rebuilds their defense could provide veteran leadership and fill a much needed hole at Free Safety.
- Offensive Line (Guard, Center, and RT)
- Running Back
- Outside Linebacker
- More picks
The Giants have 6 picks:
- Round 1: Pick 2
- Round 2: Pick 34
- Round 3: Pick 66 & 69
- Round 4: Pick 108
- Round 5: Pick 139
*Giants have no 2018 7th round selection, traded 2018 7th last year for Ross Cockrell
*Giants got an extra 2018 4th (conditional pick) for Jonathan Hankins who left in Free Agency in 2017
* Giants traded 2018 4th (conditional pick) and 2018 6th round for Alec Ogletree
The Giants could go a bunch of different directions with this and all of the different mocks show us that. It all really depends on what they really think about Eli and what they really think about this quarterback class. Gettleman has been on record saying he will not take a QB just to take one. Let’s talk about the 3 most popular options and see how the final products look as we all can decide later which direction we would like them to go with their first pick and how it will heavily affect the rest of their draft plans. It is always interesting to see which positions dries up and how important it is to take care of positions of need early before the talent pool dries up. Using fan-speak as a point of reference as well.
Option 1: Go QB, the Giants have not picked this high in the draft since 1984 and it could have come at the perfect time. Eli Manning’s days in New York are coming to an end and the Giants need to start looking towards the future.
Pick 2: Josh Rosen – QB – UCLA
Rosen is the most polished of the group and Darnold was off the board at 1. He has the arm talent to make every throw and he is the most NFL ready QB in this draft.
Pick 34: trade back, Round 2 had 12 trades last year and most of them were in the top of the 2nd round. Teams traded back for an extra 6th and sometimes even more depending on how far they traded back. In this instance we will have the Giants trade back to pick 45. Last year the Bears traded back from 36 to 45. Bears gave up 36 and a 7th for pick 45 a 4th (pick 119) a 6th (pick 197), as well as a future 4th in 2018. Giants will trade 34 to the Packers for a 2nd (pick 45) a 4th (pick 133) a 6th (pick 186) and a future 6th round selection.
Pick 45: DE/OLB – Josh Sweat – Florida St.
This draft is very thin at Tackle and Edge Rushers, the interior lineman like Price, Daniels, Fernandez, and of course Nelson are all gone as well. Giants will need to make moves on these positions earlier, they could look at running back and deeper positions later in my opinion. If he is not available they could go with a guy like Arden Key. Sweat is an athletic pass rusher who would fill in for JPP opposite of Oliver Vernon as they look to upgrade their pass rush.
Pick 66: RB – Rashaad Penny – San Diego St.
Gettleman has gotten himself a running back in every draft in which he was the General Manager, he will get him one this year as well. He most recently drafted Christian McCaffery in Carolina 1 year ago. Jonathan Stewart is not the answer for the Giants at running back. Jerry Reese was not able to deliver on offensive line, linebacker, and running back. Gettleman is making it a point to do all of those things and do them quickly. Penny will be a perfect fit with Stewart and in the Shurmur system used in the McKinnon role. If Penny is not available John Kelly, Royce Freeman, Kerryon Johnson and if somehow Ronald Jones falls could be options here round 3.
Pick 69: C/G – Mason Cole – Michigan
Gettleman loves him some hog mollies and he would put Cole in at Guard or Center right away. Cole has started every game since his freshman year of high school. He is ultra durable and has a bubble butt that would make Mayock blush. Good athlete and relies on his athleticism and great motor to turn losses into gains. Strength is pass blocking, needs to add more strength to be a better run blocker. Could compete early for the starting Center and could easily move to guard, started 2 years at right tackle for the Wolverines so he has much needed flexibility adding a possible day 1 starter and beefing up the depth chart at multiple positions. Another option for C is Frank Ragnow depending on which one is available.
Pick 108: Jessie Bates – S – Wake Forest
Jessie Bates is a playmaking Safety who would give the Giants someone who has the ability to play that single high safety as well as cover one one one in the slot. The Giants will need a playmaker following the loss of DRC and they have lacked someone opposite of Landon Collins in the back end for years. If Bates is not available look for Terrell Edmunds at the top of the 4th. Bates has a slimmer build and has more ball production where Edmunds is bigger and a more able tackler.
Pick 133: We got this conditional pick in the Packers trade when we traded back round 2.
Jerome Baker – LB – Ohio State
Very highly productive player that doesn’t get as much hype as the pass rushers and play makers. Ohio State always has a traffic cop that runs the show and they keep turning out pro ready linebackers year after year. Baker has gone under the radar this offseason and could be a plug and play starter year 1 next to Ogletree. The Giants love what they got in B.J. Goodson, but Goodson struggles to stay on the field. Baker would compete with him day 1 and could easily start week 1 for the Giants as they convert to the 3-4 and look to improve their linebackers.
Pick 139: Tarvarus Mcfadden – CB – Florida St.
McFadden possesses the size and ball skills to be a dominant corner if he can clean up his game. Long press corner with starting level talent, he has been inconsistent when tackling and one knock on him is his willingness to tackle. But, at 6’2 198 he could fit in nicely both outside and inside for the Giants at Corner. His sophomore year he was very productive with 8 interceptions even playing with a torn labrum before having a shoulder injury. He was second team All-ACC in 2017 starting all 13 games for the Seminoles. He fell to us in this excercise. If he is not there the Giants could look at a guy like Kevin Tolliver, Tony Brown or J.C. Jackson at this spot to add depth. They could easily trade Eli Apple for a day 3 pick and go for a corner earlier than this as well.
Pick 186: Tre’Quan Smith – WR – Central Florida
Smith was uber productive scoring 13 Touchdowns on 59 catches while piling up 1,171 yards in 2017. He also had around 50 catches each year the previous 2 with this year being his breakout season due the high touchdown count. Hasn’t generated a lot of buzz. Ran a 4.449 at his pro day at 6’1” 210 lbs.
Option 2: Trade Back
Pick 2: *Trade Alert* Giants move back from 2 to 12 as the Buffalo Bills treat A.J. McCarron like Mike Glennon. Look for them to grab a Josh Rosen or Josh Allen. Giants move back to 12 receiving something similar to pick 2 1sts and a 2nd, possibly more after seeing what the Jets paid. Turning pick 2 into 12 + 21 +
Pick 12: Harold Landry – DE/OLB – Boston College – Landry is a super athletic edge guy that excelled in Indy and has been rising up the draft boards as everyone is looking for that twitchy edge rusher and he fits the bill. His measurements and his combine drew Von Miller comparisons which of course is lofty, but if he could be anywhere close; the Giants are getting a steal. His 3 cone was under the magic number of 7.00 as he ran a 6.88 and a 6’3 252 he has a similar build. He will fit the Giants attacking 3-4 well as a stand up rush outside linebacker to come in and fill the spot vacated when the Giants traded JPP. Again, I think they go edge rusher early round 1 or 2. They were last in sacks last year and Gettleman wants to build both sides of the trenches to protect the passer and attack the opposing signal caller. Landry fits the bill and will be a top 15 or possibly top 10 pick this year.
Pick 21: Will Hernandez – G – UTEP – Everyone knows that Dave Gettleman loves hog mollies and Hernandez is the poster child for that. He is a powerful run blocker with an edge. The Giants missed out on Norwell and could plug Hernandez next to Solder and be well on their way to improving the offensive line and establishing the run which the Giants haven’t done since 2011.
Pick 34: Sony Michel – RB – Georgia – I definitely see the Giants trading out of 34 to get more picks, but if Sony Michel is sitting there at 34 that is not happening. Go get this guy, he is instance offense. Michel adds a dual threat running back that could even add something to the return game ala Alvin Kamara. Shurmur’s offense loves to get the running back in space and utilizes them in the passing game a lot. That could be Gallman’s role, but Michel is far more explosive and a much better athlete. Instant upgrade and difference maker to this offense that was absolutely lethargic the last 2 seasons.
Pick: 56: Carlton Davis – CB – Auburn – Gettleman likes long corners, remember he drafted Josh Norman and Davis has a similar build as well as a similar aggressive playing style. He lead one of the top defenses in the country last year. Davis could develop behind Jenkins and Apple or he could just flat out replace Apple. Fans will be hoping for the latter, either way the Giants need more corners and Davis would be a great addition as they look to replace DRC and possibly Apple as well. He only had 1 interception last year, most say that is because no one threw to his side. He started every game, but suffered a concussion in the SEC championship and missed the bowl game due to illness. He has had a quiet off-season and fallen under the radar, the Giants can only hope he slips to round 2 as he did here.
Pick 66: Marcell Ateman – WR – Oklahoma St. – Big bodied WR with strong hands that gets to learn from one of the best. The Giants can use some depth and Marshall has only committed to playing one more year. Ateman will fight for some playing time as well as learn to develop, provides a nice redzone target for the Giants and a good possession WR outside of Beckham.
Pick 69: Martinas Rankin – OT – Mississippi St. – Gettleman won’t stop at trying to fix this offensive line, he is looking for starters and guys to compete for the starting position as pretty much every position except LT is up for grabs. Rankin can provide competitions with Flowers at right tackle and could kick inside to fight with for a guard spot as well. Adds much needed depth as Solder has battled injuries in the past.
Pick 108: Mike White – QB – Western Kentucky – The Giants don’t completely ignore QB, but if they feel like there isn’t a guy worthy of pick 2 or they feel like Eli can play another 2 or 3 years; they could add White to compete with Webb for the backup role and could take a shot at a future franchise QB with a much smaller risk. It is always good to grab a QB every year or 2 in the draft. They offer great trade value and you never know what you are going to find, look at what the Patriots and Packers have done over the years with drafting quarterbacks and spinning them off in trades as well as finding a future Hall of Famer in one of those day 3 fliers.
Pick 139: Andrew Brown – DE/DT – Virginia The Giants are switching to a 3-4 and will look for some versatile defensive lineman to help rebuild this front. Brown can compete with 2nd rounder Dalvin Tomlinson for playing time and provide much needed depth as the Giants let Jay Bromley go and are still looking to replace Jonathan Hankins next to big Snacks Harrison in the middle of that defensive line.
Option 3: Stay put and don’t take a quarterback. I honestly think this is the least likely. The Colts have shown how much the Giants could get for even the Broncos to come up from 5 so if they are not going quarterback they could very easily take the money and run. The team has a lot of holes to fill, does not have a lot of cap, or a lot of picks. But, it is always a possibility so lets see what that looks like.
Pick 2: Bradley Chubb – the Giants are looking to rebuild the trenches, bought an offensive lineman so I could see them drafting a defensive lineman. They traded JPP and need to fill the void and this draft is very shallow at this position. Chubb is also a blue chip player and arguably the only blue chip defensive lineman that could go in the top 5. Guard and RB are so unlikely at 2 as well as deeper positions, Chubb I think would have the edge on Nelson and Barkley.
Pick 34: Billy Price – The Giants again are rebuilding their trenches and Price could plug right into the starting lineup at Center or Guard. Very athletic guy with a lot of experience, durability, and shows a great balance on run as well as pass blocking.
Pick 66: Donte Jackson – CB – LSU – Giants will be looking to move Eli Apple during the draft and will look to replace him. Regardless they need to replace DRC and need to prepare to not rely on Apple. Jackson opened up eyes at the combine with his 40 time and he has been rising up the boards.
Pick 69: Anthony Miller – WR – Memphis – Giants will need to stack up at WR with the OBJ drama and start look at contingency plans as well as needing to replace Brandon Marshall. Miller’s stats are eye popping 95 catches for 1400 yards and 14 TDs his junior year, is known for being ultra competitive. He lacks the prototypical size for an outside WR so he doesn’t get the same buzz as a Courtland Sutton. He is projected as a top WR, due to his size he may need to move around into the slot similar to how the Vikings use Diggs and Thielen.
Pick 108: John Kelly – RB – Tennessee John Kelly is one of my personal favorites this draft. He doesn’t have a flashy 40 and due to Tennessee’s struggles last year he was out of the spotlight. He is a little undersized, but is a tough runner. He shows great balance at point of contact and punishes defenders. A lot of his best runs came later in games as he wore defenses down. He could start in a committee and has the ability to take on the full load if called upon.
Pick 139: Tyrell Crosby – T – Oregon – Gettleman is making a point at doing what the Giants brass and fans have wanted for years. Go fix the offensive line and he may take 2 shots at it in the draft. Crosby here is another versatile athletic lineman that can offer competition to Flowers at RT and could provide depth at both ends of the line. He also is strong enough to go inside if needed at either guard spot.
The reason for going through 3 different scenarios was to show you how the first pick can change everything. Positional depth is something to consider and as you can see in these situations it was much easier to find quarterback and edge rusher early in the draft where it was easier to find interior offensive and defensive lineman as well as running backs later in the draft. I think the Giants will definitely go defensive back, running back, and offensive line this draft. We will see which option they take in a couple of days. I hope you enjoyed the read. Happy mock draft season. Please share with your friends and provide us with some feedback; Which option was you favorite and why?
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